SA Okay, I went and read the thread linked as the post quote source, and lol, the "conversational drift" person... I def think the no men rule should be for shipping, because I think it's natural to acknowledge the existence of men in the stories where we're shipping women, with the caveat that if discussions become more focused on how annoying m/m or m/f ships we hate are than actual f/f shipping, perhaps this needs to be re-evaluated. That's just my opinion but one way or another, bulldozing in with why a f/f ship being discussed would actually be great as a f/f/m threesome is incredibly frustrating. Just let us have this.