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Re: Book Discussion - Monstrous Regiment

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I love this book, nonnies. It's so important to me.

I know I'm swimming against the fandom tide (and I do love Mal) but Polly and Jackrum have always been my faves. I like that Polly's journey isn't (what seemed to me when I read it as a kid) the typical journey of coming-of-age or women-in-war stories where the girl learns some self-esteem and then everything goes back to normal; specifically she learns she's good at being a sergeant.

Pace all the stupid Mark discussion, I also like that it doesn't really matter in this book how characters "might identify."

Re: Book Discussion - Monstrous Regiment

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Polly is one of my favourite characters in Discworld, ever (I keep wondering how she'd get on with Angua) and I'm always kind of puzzled by people who think she's self-interested or selfish or even a "judgmental jerk" like I saw in one discussion (I mean....everyone in MR is a judgmental jerk to some extent if we want to go there). She isn't sweet, and she's motivated as much by getting away from the Duchess (heh) and marrying as she is finding Paul, but she's pragmatic because she's a sergeant type.

One of the things that most irritated me about Mark's HORROR that Polly was going to be like Jackrum (not to make this All About Mark) is that Polly isn't a copy of Jackrum. She's not a warrior. She's a fighter, but she's not fitting into the place he had, because she's a woman and a different person. And the environment is different: there's the newspapers and the clacks and the women's earlier victory even if they did get stuck in those silly uniforms. Polly can be radical by being openly herself, and it's not the same way Jackrum was radical by taking on the military male persona and fully inhabiting it. I had the feeling that at the very end she's more genderqueer than the meme MR nonnies seem to think (isn't she wearing trousers?) but maybe I was reading too much into it. I do love how she says "You are my little lads - or not, as the case may be - and I will look after you." (emphasis added) She's not just imitating Jackrum, she's building on what they did together.

I also love how unapologetically ride or die Thelma-and-Louise Lofty and Tonker (hmm, the initials match) are. I think maybe the closest other "good" characters get to wiping out the opposition like that is maybe Agnes in Carpe Jugulum, and she doesn't do it. But Pratchett doesn't condemn or even judge them, like with Wazzer. It's like he's just saying, this is the consequence of treating people that badly.

And I think Jackrum is one of Pratchett's best characters ever. He's like something out of Dickens or Peake.