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(frozen comment) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

but just as often it's straight assholes!

Like there's a difference.

(frozen comment) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

usually there really is no difference ime and the people that try to make it out to be like asexuals are some special class that aren't capable of homophobia and therefore i'm obligated to feel any kind of solidarity with them grind my gears

a lot of the asexual community is intensely homophobic no, not every single one is consciously so but they've identified themselves with a community that attracts a LOT of homophobes so yes i'm going to make jokes that they can be homophobic

(frozen comment) Re: wank containment area

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but they've identified themselves with a community that attracts a LOT of homophobes

By... describing their sexual orientation as what it is?

This is why I would qualify this as sexuality wank and why I wish it wasn't a thing here. It's one thing to take issue with aspects of the tumblr asexual community or whatever else, it's another thing to say that people are identifying themselves as homophobic by being open about their identity and not self-flagellating every time they mention it or something.

(frozen comment) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

the identity as it is has been irrecoverably ruined and tainted

ntm that the guy who started the asexual community david jay is a homophobe who's gone on about how gay people need to be taught to have "nonsexual intimacy"

(frozen comment) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

the rules say sexuality wank is okay in the wank thread and only the wank thread so... maybe just block the wank thread if you don't want to see it?

(frozen comment) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

+100

it's the same as making fun of fundie christians for me - in fact it's essentially the same rhetoric just with the jesus removed.

are there lgbt christians? yeah. are there non-lgbt christians who don't hate gay people? yeah. do I respect the concept of being christian in the abstract? mmhmm. am I still going to joke about christians being homophobic? yes because the overall attitude + track record of the christian community toward a) sexuality and b) gay sexual attraction is really fucking shitty.

now go through that paragraph, replace the word "christian" with "asexual", and you've p. much got my take. except also imagine if christians were trying to come into lgbt safe spaces en masse and insist that being christian meant they were under the lgbt umbrella because christians are killed in some countries + some kid made fun of them for saying they were waiting to have sex until marriage in high school one time and being lgbt is all about being hated for being different :(

also my attitude toward christians and asexuals is the same in the sense that they need to shut up about lgbt people making jokes about them and fix their own community to remove the homophobic and anti-sex rhetoric so we won't feel threatened by it anymore... and guess what! I bet the problem of people making jokes about you being homophobic will fix itself then!

(frozen comment) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

sa

oh, and add to that:

do I have christian friends? yes. am I still going to feel vaguely uncomfortable around my loudly and excitedly non-lgbt christian friends, more so than my other non-lgbt friends? yes, again because of the track record of the community they are so enthusiastic about identifying with. do I think being christian is stupid? no. do I think it's inherently homophobic? no.

^ and replace "christian" with "asexual" for those of you who are confused about why people seem to have a problem with that. it's not as simple as "oh you just hate asexuals". for me with both the christian community in my country and the asexual community it's the same issue of a community soaked in homophobic, anti-sex rhetoric that seems to be a lot more eager to get itself validated by the lgbts than to clean up the mess that made a lot of lgbt people uncomfortable with it in the first place.

(frozen comment) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

+1