Re: wank containment area

(Anonymous) 2018-08-09 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

If you're determined to read in bad faith, you'll find people are attacking you everywhere.

This is in response to people bemoaning that certain fandoms have a higher percentage of m/m or f/m than they do f/f, and saying that is a universal experience and pretending no fandom ever has more f/f, or there are no f/f juggernauts, no f/f fandom history, etc. Look: it is a statistical fact that some fandoms really do have less f/f than they do other types of fanwork, just as it's a statistical fact that there are some fandoms where most fanworks are f/f. It irritates me when people pretend the latter doesn't exist or doesn't count. But I'm not saying that f/f ships in fandoms where f/f is less common are less real, like femslash less, etc. I've been in fandom a long-ass time (15 years, give or take?) and I've done it all. The juggernauts in megafandoms, the tiny fandoms, the crossover ships, the little enclaves in bigger fandoms that are just doing their own thing. One fan can easily move between those things. Some days you strike gold and everyone loves the thing you love. Other days you love a thing almost no one seems to care about and you're desperately producing content in the hope of attracting someone into the depths like an anglerfish waving its bright shiny head-tentacle around.

And I also know that sometimes you hit a fandom that has great f/f chemistry, but due to inscrutable forces of fandom migration patterns, all anyone cares about are those two boys in the background who had like one line. And short of triggering a migration from a different demographic, there's not a lot you can do about that. Are there some fannish demographics that are "just About Men"? You know...I think there are. A migration from Supernatural fandom rarely bodes well for female characters, no shade on the canon or those who like it and femslash in it! (If you've been there, you know exactly what I mean.) Just as there are some fannish demographics that are just gonna readerfic. And some fannish demographics where it's all A/B/O, some where it's all barista AUs, some where it's all hanahaki disease. That doesn't mean people who don't like whatever's taken hold as popular in a space don't count, or are stupid for staying. Just that, and again, this was my actual point, something being popular in one localized space doesn't mean it's popular everywhere. Lots of femslash fans are in fandoms that aren't femslash-heavy, but "wah, no one in my fandom likes femslash" is a very different complaint from "wah, women in general hate femslash because lesbian sex is gross to them!" It's the latter I'm disagreeing with, using spaces where it's demonstrably untrue as evidence.

If you're a femslash fan in a fandom that doesn't like what you like very much, well, as the kids these days say, you are valid!

Re: wank containment area

(Anonymous) 2018-08-09 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh now it's about the dynamic of the people in the fandom and not the canon being About Men? Nice backpeddle.

Re: wank containment area

(Anonymous) 2018-08-09 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

You're weird and aggressive, ayrt is tl;dr, and frankly I have no idea wtf either of you is on about.

Re: wank containment area

(Anonymous) 2018-08-09 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh I was just seeing how long I could keep her writing 500 word essays in response to one line low effort trolling.

Re: wank containment area

(Anonymous) 2018-08-09 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of suspected, but don't feel too proud of yourself, I was mostly trying not to think of a stressful RL problem and it was a good distraction. "Wank containment area" seemed a good place for this.

Re: wank containment area

(Anonymous) 2018-08-09 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't there enough of that already at FFA.

Re: wank containment area

(Anonymous) 2018-08-09 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I like her 500 word essays so thanks for encouraging more, I guess.

Re: wank containment area

(Anonymous) 2018-08-09 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Jeez, can the w4w people fuck off? We know you don't know how to capitalize and that you don't like to read and you're so above people caring and all that. You guys are boring. Don't you have a meme already?

Re: wank containment area

(Anonymous) 2018-08-09 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
you've noticed that the mod doesn't capitalize either, right? and the post layout/rules format is pretty clearly cribbed from wiffu's... p. sure if you have a problem with interacting anon with people who go to wiffu it's you who are in the wrong place

unless you're just trolling in which case lol