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[(Anonymous)]

Nonny, I don't know what breed of hatefulness/transphobia/2nd-wave L-sep/biphobia/exclusionist nonsense you're dogwhistling here, but I can guarantee you "gb2 w4w!!!" was never a response to talking about homophobia. It could have been a response to "trans lesbians are a conspiracy to force lesbians to suck dick and their existence is both rape and conversion therapy," or "ace lesbians are inherently homophobic and out to destroy real lesbians with conservative purity ring forced celibacy, also they're straight," or "bi women steal lesbian energies and give them to men, also they're straight too," and none of these things, I can condescendingly assure you, are "talking about homophobia."

I'm very willing to talk about homophobia, and have on this meme, and any of those conversations would have been fine on FFA too, except for trolls trying to derail it with nonsense like this, or telling my lesbian ass "you just hate lesbians!!! TERF just means lesbian!" I hate to invoke this wank directly, but I know exactly what you're alluding to, and I know it was worded just vaguely enough to give the "you're nuts and bringing up stuff I never meant!" out, but let's just drag this shit out into the daylight where everyone can see how ugly it is. I'm too old and been around the lesbian feminist block too many times to not know our wanks and discourse by heart. And it's never done our community a lick of good. At worst, it's been astroturfed by outsiders to sow dissent and divide and conquer us. If you can't take a breath and let other wlw do them while you do you, and instead have to take other people's lifestyles as some kind of narcissistic attack on yours, you are not "talking about homophobia," you are trying to police other people's identities and being a community-destroying, solidarity-busting asshole. That is not gay liberation, that is not consciousness raising, and you are not helping.

w4w has never been a place to "talk about homophobia" in any kind of useful sense, and FFAers wouldn't tell you to go back there for that, many of them would actually just commiserate. Homophobia gets frozen, as does all that other bullshit.

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Terf wank isn't going to go anywhere good

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

😐

i'm trans, please don't randomly assume shit because you wrongfully assume everyone on w4w is a terf/biphobe when meme has plenty of those as well

dememe w4w and look at some of the responses