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Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

Feral is/was? in Homestuck fandom, so I almost feel like she was trying to write Saki and Meirin as moirails. (Like maybe in a prior draft of the story they were fantrolls or something.) But outside of the context of troll worldbuilding, the thing they have going on is not cute, it's bizarre.

Theirs is not even the only weirdly-intense character dynamic like that--but like you said, Aubrey actually gets called out for their codependent streak, because it's unfairly imposing emotional labor on poor Alto. Meanwhile their (explicit!) obsession with and willingness to die for father-figure Altair doesn't develop much besides being a reason to make Alto feel upset and disillusioned with them.

I also like how in the only canon character relationship that isn't weirdly codependent like that (Arietta/Altair), it's rammed up your nose throughout Act 1 of her backstory how Arietta is so precocious and such a genius for her particularly young age. IIRC, it's not specified how old Altair is compared to her, but it's still strongly vibing with older guy/younger girl. And maybe I would not find it worthy of note if it weren't for all the other weird shit in the game. "Adult-intelligent loli" is a bog-standard anime trope, after all--completely played straight in a game that's obsessed with subverting problematic tropes.

I feel as if if you made a Venn diagram of Meirin/Saki, Aubrey/Altair(?), and Arietta/Altair, Feral's id would lie in the middle part. (I mean, Alto being an abuse survivor power fantasy is also clearly an id thing for Feral, but she's very open about that much, and trying to impress very hard upon you that her id is woke.)

And God, Feral's whole thing about sex workers is so weird too. Legal brothels which you're of age to go to at age 16 and it's not weird and there's no shady implications! The only reason Teagan would be upset about her brother being a sex worker is because she's so sexphobic to begin with!

Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

Go I ended up looking at the fanfic category again, and there's another "canon fanfic" I hadn't seen before from last year, and just... The summary...

“I will love you no matter what you do with your hair,” Saki goes on calmly, as if he didn’t hear you. “Leave it like this, cut it short, dye it rainbow colors, shave it off, anything is fine as long as you like it. I’m not going to stop caring about you if I think that how you dress or modify your body is silly or not to my taste. It’s your body, Meirin. You’re the only one who has any right to decide how it should look.”

Heat rushes into your face at Saki’s too-patient pronouncement. “How and why do you keep always doing this.”

It was a rhetorical question, but he smiles and answers you anyway: “We’ve been living together for two years now. I know at least as much about how you behave as you have observed about me.”

In which Meirin receives a letter and pays a visit to friends, Teagan returns home, and there is much ado about Meirin's hair.

It's tagged "queerplatonic relationship," because that's how you brand your fantasy about how you want a Gay Male BFF to make you the center of his life to the exclusion of actually dating men and constantly shower you with ~emotional support in a way that brings heat to your cheeks as Woke, I guess.

Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

sometimes i wish they'd just outright say it's het instead of pussyfooting around it like this

kind of like how some hetfic gets tagged as f/f despite not a single f/f ship being tagged on the fic

Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

kind of like how some hetfic gets tagged as f/f despite not a single f/f ship being tagged on the fic

Ahhh, really? I'm not sure I've seen that, though given the many kinds of weirdness I have seen I'm not entirely surprised by it. Elaborate?

Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

there's a lot of hetfic in the f/f tag for dragon age fics at least and a lot of them don't even have a f/f ship tagged in the first place and no it's not some f/f AU version of a het ship either

i think they do it to get in as many tags as possible but it's annoying to me because i have to scroll past so much fic in search of some femslash to read because a lot of it's just het

Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

At least you can exclude by category now on AO3. I'm still holding out for primary/secondary ship categories but that might be a lost cause.

Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

a secondary ship category would definitely be helpful but i foresee problems with that sort of thing too (people tagging secondary ships as primary ships, tagging primary ships as secondary ships, tagging for secondary ships that don't ever show up in the fic, etc)

Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

Unfortunately there'd be no way to retroactively apply that change, so the millions of works already posted would just have all their existing ship tags categorized as "Primary" by default.

Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

Wow that's absolutely absurd. In plenty of my fandoms I've seen people tag something as f/f and also tag a specific f/f ship that showed up for like two lines in the actual fic, but these clowns aren't even pretending.

Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I thought my fandoms were bad with, both characters appeared in the fic, never interacted but I need to sink the canon het so tag it with f/f in their m/m and gen fics.

Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

+2.

In my fandoms it's usually M/M (main pairing), F/F (background pairing who show up for two lines, usually to be sidekicks or yentas to the main M/M pairing). And that's fucking annoying, but this sounds even worse.

Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

NA

There are a bunch of these in Red vs. Blue. Usually an abandoned longfic with maybe 1-5 chapters posted and a massive tag wall including at least five ships, none of them F/F, and all the pairing categories tagged.

Honestly at this point if I see all the pairing categories tagged I don't even bother reading the rest of the tags.