Re: wank containment area

Date: 2018-08-08 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
D DA who linked the song elsewhere: yeah, I love the song/video but I kind of have to divorce it from its context in the episode.

IDK, I have a lot of Valencia feelings. I think it's hard to read something more into Valencia's reaction in the context of that specific episode. But we also know that Valencia has serious issues she's not dealing with at that point in canon, that she doesn't know how to have female friends or genuinely connect to other women, and that she does eventually get out of her toxic relationship, work on herself, and end up with Beth... and I also do think we're meant to think that Valencia connecting with Rebecca as a friend is part of the reason Valencia moves towards that. (e.g. Valencia watching how-to-be-funny videos on the internet to connect with people comes up in her first meeting with Beth.)

Separately from all of that, I think the canon is seriously short-changing Valencia and I want them to actually give us something more than a meet-cute with Beth in the final season.

Re: wank containment area

Date: 2018-08-08 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
AYRT

I have SO MANY feelings about Valenica, especially about how she's juxtaposed against Rebecca in the narrative. Valenica starts out as "the other woman": she's hot and snobby and bitchy. But she turns out to be kinda nice and kinda awkward and the Heather & Valencia & Rebecca friendship is one of my favorite things about the show, as is Valenica's scoffing and wanting nothing to do with Rebecca's ~feelings~ about Josh. I'm so salty that we know nothing about Beth! And that we didn't get to see them get Valencia's wedding planning business off the ground! I know why the timeskip was necessary but ughhhhh I wanted more.

Re: wank containment area

Date: 2018-08-08 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
AYRT

I KNOW, RIGHT. We didn't even get enough of Beth for me to feel like I've got a handle on her to write fic about her and that part of canon.

I kind of wonder if they were considering a Valencia/Rebecca endgame at one point, because that would have been amazing.

Re: wank containment area

Date: 2018-08-08 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
NA

Valencia is so fascinating to me too! And honestly I would have loved for the show to dig into her relationship with Beth (...I really don't care about Nathaniel, and so a lot of the second half fell flat to me)

There's a lot of comp het stuff around everything to do with her relationship with Josh, and the way Rebecca sees her through this exoticised perspective, and basically I just love Valencia a whole lot

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