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(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

Someone, I rather doubt the mods here are as eager to coddle the asmexies as they are on meme. Which is a point in their favor.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

"Coddle"? Seriously?

Idgaf about asexuality politics, but this kind of categorical nastiness just for the sake of it was something I had kind of been hoping to get a break from over here. Like, there aren't even any self-identified asexuals involved in this? If the person in the quote had actually pulled out the "as an asexual I am being persecuted by the existence of sex" then the mocking would be warranted, but as it is, it sort of just feels like someone is derailing a completely unrelated discussion as a flimsy excuse to be performatively alienating.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

do you really think people on an f/f comm haven't heard enough of "you're reducing f/f to just being about sex just by talking about sex-related things at all"

that line of thinking is tiresome and definitely worth making fun of, even if you think it's not ~polite

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

Yes? Obviously? I just don't see wtf that has to do with asexuality in this instance! Sure, sometimes it's asexual awareness~ assholes spouting that nonsense, but just as often it's straight assholes!

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

SA: Actually, I think that's what's pissing me off about this: the quote was definitely homophobic. It might or might not have had anything to do with asexuality. But somehow this subtread is about gratuitous asexual bashing instead of, you know, homophobia.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly! Like, it's not even warranted sexuality wank, it's someone deciding to start shit out of the blue by cherry-picking because I guess they just want to shit on asexual people!

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

+1000000000

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

asexual people are usually also straight

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

As long as we're setting community norms, can we import derailing porn for really boring wank? I love derailing porn.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who doesn't care about this wank, but is watching on flat view, I'd like to point out that it wouldn't even be happening if you'd just ignored the "probable asexy" remark.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

if someone can be asexual and gay then why can't someone be asexual and straight

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

Are they really?

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

Yes.

This has been another exciting episode of SATSQ.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

Even in the majority of acewank I've seen, they aren't. But this is a favored straw man.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

Tell that to my ex.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

What is this even supposed to mean? Your ex is a non-straight asexual, so the majority of asexuals aren't straight? By that logic I could point out that since I'm gay, the majority of the general population isn't straight.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

White people are usually also straight

Americans are usually also straight

People with driver's licenses are usually also straight


Seriously, that statement means nothing because statistically there are much more straight people than gay people, that doesn't mean that there are no LGBT people in that given population, or that the intersection of LGBT people with that population should be ignored.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

the intersection of LGBT people with that population should be ignored

I've never seen anyone say this. Unless you're one of those people who interpret "cishet aces are cishet" as "all aces are cishet".

Cishet aces are cishet and are just as likely to be homophobic and transphobic as cishet non-aces.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

but just as often it's straight assholes!

Like there's a difference.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

usually there really is no difference ime and the people that try to make it out to be like asexuals are some special class that aren't capable of homophobia and therefore i'm obligated to feel any kind of solidarity with them grind my gears

a lot of the asexual community is intensely homophobic no, not every single one is consciously so but they've identified themselves with a community that attracts a LOT of homophobes so yes i'm going to make jokes that they can be homophobic

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

but they've identified themselves with a community that attracts a LOT of homophobes

By... describing their sexual orientation as what it is?

This is why I would qualify this as sexuality wank and why I wish it wasn't a thing here. It's one thing to take issue with aspects of the tumblr asexual community or whatever else, it's another thing to say that people are identifying themselves as homophobic by being open about their identity and not self-flagellating every time they mention it or something.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

+100

it's the same as making fun of fundie christians for me - in fact it's essentially the same rhetoric just with the jesus removed.

are there lgbt christians? yeah. are there non-lgbt christians who don't hate gay people? yeah. do I respect the concept of being christian in the abstract? mmhmm. am I still going to joke about christians being homophobic? yes because the overall attitude + track record of the christian community toward a) sexuality and b) gay sexual attraction is really fucking shitty.

now go through that paragraph, replace the word "christian" with "asexual", and you've p. much got my take. except also imagine if christians were trying to come into lgbt safe spaces en masse and insist that being christian meant they were under the lgbt umbrella because christians are killed in some countries + some kid made fun of them for saying they were waiting to have sex until marriage in high school one time and being lgbt is all about being hated for being different :(

also my attitude toward christians and asexuals is the same in the sense that they need to shut up about lgbt people making jokes about them and fix their own community to remove the homophobic and anti-sex rhetoric so we won't feel threatened by it anymore... and guess what! I bet the problem of people making jokes about you being homophobic will fix itself then!

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

categorical nastiness just for the sake of it

lol

(frozen) Re: wank containment area

[(Anonymous)]

NA Hey, I really appreciate your being here and speaking up, for whatever that's worth.

(frozen) Re: wank containment area - MODS

[(Anonymous)]

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