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Re: wank containment area - wank about femslash

[(Anonymous)]

A/b/o is such a monkey's paw for me, because I love desperation to be fucked (and really need to read more f/f sex pollen) but everything else that goes along with it, especially the clear gender roles and sexism? Hmm, no.

Re: wank containment area - wank about femslash

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I can't actually wank with you because I agree with all of this. It makes me so mad to think of my beautiful desperation to be fucked kink coming packaged with artificial gender roles and boring uberpatriarchy worldbuilding. I started typing something about how much I hate characters being destined for each other by scent or sex position, but I realized I wouldn't actually hate reading f/f with that, so. /o\

Anyway, how I wish there was more f/f sex pollen. I remember really liking this Kara/Lena Supergirl series:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/11016522/chapters/24548256

But I need so, so much more.

Re: wank containment area - wank about femslash

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Thank you so much for the rec, nonny! Now unfortunately I will be unavailable for further arguing because I need to read this immediately.

Re: wank containment area - wank about femslash

[(Anonymous)]

DA

+1

I get that my bug is another person's feature and that kinking on gender essentialism in fiction =/= uncritically subscribing to gender essentialism IRL, but I would be so much more into omegaverse if it didn't usually come packaged with all the gender roles played straight and fantasy sexism stuff. I love heats, it should be an AU setting I'm totally into, there's so much of it, and yet ... !

Re: wank containment area - wank about femslash

[(Anonymous)]

NA yeah, exactly this. I lost my patience for 'no, actually, THIS a/b/o take is progressive!!' when it's just the same old thing a long time ago, not to mention how it's seemingly become a necessity for all monseterfucking fic. Stop taking things I love and writing them in ways that squick me, fandom!

Re: wank containment area - wank about femslash

[(Anonymous)]

kinking on gender essentialism in fiction =/= uncritically subscribing to gender essentialism IRL, but I would be so much more into omegaverse if it didn't usually come packaged with all the gender roles played straight and fantasy sexism stuff

This is exactly my problem with a/b/o. It's already ruined a lot of slash for me, I want it to stay the hell away from femslash.

Re: wank containment area - wank about femslash

[(Anonymous)]

DDA

+whatever number we're on. And it's not just that it's gender roles and gender essentialism, it's biologically determined gender roles and gender essentialism. I can deal with a society in story thinking fucked up things and making fucked up assumptions, but it squicks me hardcore when it's automatically that way because biology. And the real world sexism pastede on yay also squicks me hard.

In theory, I like at least some of the tropes and kinks involved, and early on, there were some stories I liked a lot because they did interesting things with worldbuilding, but now it's like the tropes have calcified and the things I like always come with a huge helping of some of my biggest squicks.